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Re: p <-> kw

From:Robert B Wilson <han_solo55@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 18, 2002, 22:13
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:41:58 -0800 Josh Brandt-Young <vionau@...>
writes:
> You may already know this, but lip-rounding has the effect of > lowering the > formant frequencies of the stop burst, which means that the > difference > between, say, [p] and [k_w] is next to nothing, acoustically. I > don't know > of any living languages that do this (except, apparently, English, > given > your example), but PIE did: we have PIE "gwo:us" showing up as Latin > "bo:s" > vs. English "cow," and the same distribution holds for the voiceless > and > breathy-voiced stops as well.
how do we know it wasn't "bo:us" in PIE? if a b > gw change is possible, then it is almost impossible to tell which consonant was present in PIE.
> Where have you observed this in English? Is there any chance of > recording > it?
well, i can give the sentence in which i first noticed it: "i'll be back in a few minutes." [OL g_wij b&k In @ fj@u mIn3ts] i think it's very odd that the "b" in "be" is changed and the one in "back" isn't.
> -Josh
Robert Wilson http://kuvazokad.free.fr/ Yessessë Eru ontanë Menel ar Cemen. Yessessë ëa Quetta ar Quetta né as Eru ar Eru né Quetta.

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