Re: p <-> kw

The p-Celts and the q-Celts, Robert, basically the Brythonic and the
Goidelic.  What is "p" in Brythonic is in some circumstances "k" or "q" in
Goidelic, so that you have Welsh mab/mab for "son," but Irish and Scots
Gaelic "mac."
Other examples abound.

As for your claim that you've heard English speakers interchanging these
sounds, I would be eager to have an example.  I've never heard of this.

Sally Caves
scaves@frontiernet.net
Eskkoat ol ai sendran, rohsan nuehra celyil takrem bomai nakuo.
"My shadow follows me, putting strange, new roses into the world."



----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert B Wilson" <han_solo55@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: p <-> kw


> are there any natlangs that show a p > kw sound change (or a b > gw one)?
>  i've noticed that a few people  sometimes pronounce /p/ as [k_w] and
> /kw/ as [p] when speaking english and don't realize that they do it.
>
> Robert Wilson
> http://kuvazokad.free.fr/
> Yessessë Eru ontanë Menel ar Cemen.
> Yessessë ëa Quetta ar Quetta né as Eru ar Eru né Quetta.
>