Re: "The Enshadowed Wood", Rokbeigalmki, and Proto-Elven
From: | Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, June 12, 2001, 17:20 |
Steg Belsky wrote:
>So now i'm thinking that the Elves would have named this memory "The
>Forest of Shadows", or something similar. I have a few txt files on my
>computer of lists of different Tolkienian languages' roots, and i found
>the following possibilities:
>
>phuy- = deep shadow
>tawar- = wood, forest
>tauree = great wood, forest (this entry has "tawar-" in braces after
>the definition)
>spar- = to hunt, pursue
>
>Does anyone here have enough knowledge of Proto-Elven to come up with a
>plausable term for something like "The Forest of Hunter-Shadows"? Or
>something else, if you have a better idea?
Now, despite what Daniel Andreasson'll tell you, I not exactly an expert on
Primitive Quendian, but I thought I'd give it a try anyways.
_Tauree_ is indeed the word for "(great) forrest". From the Q and ON forms
we can reconstruct *_phuinee_ as the word for "(deep) shadow)". In a
compound that'd shorten to *_-phuine_. *_Spaaroo_ could be an agental
formation from SPAR "hunt".
Then, how to piece this together? For the "Hunter-Shadows" part,
*_spaaroophuine_ looks quite good I think. We have _Taure Huineeva_ for
"Forest of Shadows" in Q, so I'll use a reconstructed form of the possessive
ending -va, namely *_-waa_. According to one of Tolkien's notes, the pl
variant -iva was a Q invention, so presumably we can't distinguish between
"of shadow" and "of shadows" in PQ.
So, something like _Tauree Spaaroophuineewaa_ "Forest of Hunter-Shadow" (in
all likelihood, the long e of *phuinee will revert here).
Andreas
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