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Re: this is what I got in the mail.

From:Rik <rik@...>
Date:Monday, March 17, 2003, 20:28
On Sunday 16 March 2003 6:28 am, you wrote:
> Sally Caves scripsit: > > But it ISN'T a whole, John. As such, Teonaht exists only in published > > on-line documents: a grammar book, a dictionary, a chrestomathy by Sally > > Caves, and a handful of on-line musical productions, and all have my > > copyright mark on them. All the rest is in my head, in a battered > > notebook over thirty years old, and what I say to Chris or my cat. > > Strictly speaking, and putting aside dream and philosophy, Teonaht is > > NOT a real language. It's an invention. And so is every documented word > > of it. > > Sure. But if I or someone else puts together those words in that > documented way and produce a unique new Teonaht text, it belongs to me, me, > me, and you have no rights at all. At law. >
Surely, Teonaht is a code or cypher - a method of storing data together with the information for interpreting that data correctly at some time in the future. I'd argue that the "language" - which is the creation of one person - is entirely copyrightable, and that Sally Caves would have a good chance of enforcing that copyright should anyone try to profit from her intellectual work. Codes and cyphers can be copyrighted - for example the .gif format for graphic elements. And also computer languages - AMOS Basic (for Amiga) was copyrighted, and I think Visual Basic is very much the property of Microsoft. Isn't Loglan copyrighted? Lojban? Gevey is definitely copyrighted - every page on the website includes copyright metadata. But the chances of anyone ever wanting to use Gevey for profit is minimal, to say the least. Just my opinion of course. Rik


Herman Miller <hmiller@...>