Thanks to Aidan for letting me put my resolution to the test.
At 3:50 PM -0500 03/14/02, Aidan Grey wrote:
>  Follows is a discussion of phonological patterns in Adain (formerly known
>as Sephas). And in case you wonder, no, it is not an anagram of my name! It
>derives from _adan_ 'people' and the adjectival/language suffix -in.
>
>Basic phonology:
You mean "inventory", right?
>Length:
>    vowels (both simple and diphthong) are long or short. The distinction
>is represented orthographically by geminate consonants or clusters
>following a short vowel in stressed syllables. Unstressed syllables are
>always short.
Okay. You realize that this orthographic decision will leave you
without a clear way of representing long consonants (you mention the
possibility of long consonants later on).
>Orthography:
>  Consonants are mostly as above, with the following exceptions: /N/ as n
>(allophonic). /w/ as u. /f/ and /v/ occassionally appear in transliteration
>as ph or bh.
>   Vowels get more interesting. Here is a chart that explains, with the
>orthographic representation along the left edge (hopefully the formatting
>will remain):
>
>          Short     Long
>a        @          a
>e        E           e
>i         I             i
>o        o            ow
>u        U           u
>au      C           aw
>eu      U           ew
>ai       E            aj
>ei       I             ej
>oe      U            oj
>ae      &            /aj/ or /ej/ (dialectal variation)
>ao      E            ew
>y        @           @ (or wedge /^/ ?)
>
>A couple minimal pairs:
>  son /sown/  vs. sonn /son/
>  taov /tewv/  vs. taovra /tevr@/
So long /ew/ is matched with both /U/ and /E/ orthographically? I
also wonder why you choose to use <ao> for short /E/ and long /ew/ ...
>here's the part I'd like the most comments on (is it realistic? Do I make
>sense? anything else?)
It seems that there might be some extra-linguistic history behind
some of the orthographic decisions you've made. Fill us in.
>Words normally retain the characteristic length of their stressed vowel
>throughout declension or conjugation. In the case of a long vowel or
>diphthong preceding a cluster (due to derivational or inflectional
>processes), this should result in a short vowel (and sometimes it does.
>However, in general, the long vowel transforms into a diphthong, preserving
>length visually if not entirely phonemically. For example, the verb
>_ser_  /ser/ 'flow' becomes _saerra_  /s&rr@/ in the future conjunct (in
>-ra). This transformation turns front vowels and j-diphthongs (except oe)
>into ae and all others into ao.
I think I understand what you are doing, but I don't understand why.
Why is it important that syllables preserve the appearance of length
if they are not in fact long? Is this another extra-linguistic
orthographical decision? I'd also like to see more examples of the
"transformations" you mention.
>Syllable structure:
>    (cluster or consonant +) vowel or diphthong (+ continuant)
>    two vowels consecutively are not allowed, and are separated by a glide
>or /v/
>
>    Permitted initial clusters
>      stop + liquid
>      unvoiced fricative + liquid
>      s + unvoiced stop or liquid
>      stop, l, or h + y
>
>    Permitted medial clusters
>      nasal + stop
>      nasal + liquid and liquid + nasal (permitted clusters depends on
>relation to tonic syllable, which I haven't yet fully analysed)
>      ht
>      liquid + fricative or sibilant (with l+h>lh, r+h>rh)
>      unvoiced stop + s (< voiced stop + s, all unv. stops + s > fricatives)
>      h + nasal or liquid (with h+l or r > lh, rh)
>
>    no final clusters allowed (only gemination). No clusters of more than 2
>phonemes allowed.
So if a syllable ending in a consonant precedes a syllable beginning
with a cluster, won't this produce a cluster of three phonemes? If
not, what are the rules of cluster simplification?
Dirk
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Dirk Elzinga                  Dirk_Elzinga@byu.edu
Man deth swa he byth thonne he mot swa he wile.
'A man does as he is when he can do what he wants.'
- Old English Proverb