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Re: DISC: phonological system of Adain

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
Date:Thursday, March 14, 2002, 22:22
Thanks to Aidan for letting me put my resolution to the test.

At 3:50 PM -0500 03/14/02, Aidan Grey wrote:
> Follows is a discussion of phonological patterns in Adain (formerly known >as Sephas). And in case you wonder, no, it is not an anagram of my name! It >derives from _adan_ 'people' and the adjectival/language suffix -in. > >Basic phonology:
You mean "inventory", right?
>Length: > vowels (both simple and diphthong) are long or short. The distinction >is represented orthographically by geminate consonants or clusters >following a short vowel in stressed syllables. Unstressed syllables are >always short.
Okay. You realize that this orthographic decision will leave you without a clear way of representing long consonants (you mention the possibility of long consonants later on).
>Orthography: > Consonants are mostly as above, with the following exceptions: /N/ as n >(allophonic). /w/ as u. /f/ and /v/ occassionally appear in transliteration >as ph or bh. > Vowels get more interesting. Here is a chart that explains, with the >orthographic representation along the left edge (hopefully the formatting >will remain): > > Short Long >a @ a >e E e >i I i >o o ow >u U u >au C aw >eu U ew >ai E aj >ei I ej >oe U oj >ae & /aj/ or /ej/ (dialectal variation) >ao E ew >y @ @ (or wedge /^/ ?) > >A couple minimal pairs: > son /sown/ vs. sonn /son/ > taov /tewv/ vs. taovra /tevr@/
So long /ew/ is matched with both /U/ and /E/ orthographically? I also wonder why you choose to use <ao> for short /E/ and long /ew/ ...
>here's the part I'd like the most comments on (is it realistic? Do I make >sense? anything else?)
It seems that there might be some extra-linguistic history behind some of the orthographic decisions you've made. Fill us in.
>Words normally retain the characteristic length of their stressed vowel >throughout declension or conjugation. In the case of a long vowel or >diphthong preceding a cluster (due to derivational or inflectional >processes), this should result in a short vowel (and sometimes it does. >However, in general, the long vowel transforms into a diphthong, preserving >length visually if not entirely phonemically. For example, the verb >_ser_ /ser/ 'flow' becomes _saerra_ /s&rr@/ in the future conjunct (in >-ra). This transformation turns front vowels and j-diphthongs (except oe) >into ae and all others into ao.
I think I understand what you are doing, but I don't understand why. Why is it important that syllables preserve the appearance of length if they are not in fact long? Is this another extra-linguistic orthographical decision? I'd also like to see more examples of the "transformations" you mention.
>Syllable structure: > (cluster or consonant +) vowel or diphthong (+ continuant) > two vowels consecutively are not allowed, and are separated by a glide >or /v/ > > Permitted initial clusters > stop + liquid > unvoiced fricative + liquid > s + unvoiced stop or liquid > stop, l, or h + y > > Permitted medial clusters > nasal + stop > nasal + liquid and liquid + nasal (permitted clusters depends on >relation to tonic syllable, which I haven't yet fully analysed) > ht > liquid + fricative or sibilant (with l+h>lh, r+h>rh) > unvoiced stop + s (< voiced stop + s, all unv. stops + s > fricatives) > h + nasal or liquid (with h+l or r > lh, rh) > > no final clusters allowed (only gemination). No clusters of more than 2 >phonemes allowed.
So if a syllable ending in a consonant precedes a syllable beginning with a cluster, won't this produce a cluster of three phonemes? If not, what are the rules of cluster simplification? Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga Dirk_Elzinga@byu.edu Man deth swa he byth thonne he mot swa he wile. 'A man does as he is when he can do what he wants.' - Old English Proverb

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