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Re: Justifying a stress pattern

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Saturday, December 29, 2007, 18:10
Eugene Oh wrote:
> How can a long syllable end in a short vowel, with or without a following > consonant...? > That's what's confusing me. (:
In the older terminology that called syllables short or long (rather than light or heavy), that is precisely what a 'long' syllable might be. All blocked syllables are 'long' or heavy; thus if that coda is a short vowel followed by a consonant the syllable is 'long' or heavy. 'Short' or light syllables are only those whose vowel is short and have non consonant coda. -------------------------------------- MorphemeAddict@WMCONNECT.COM wrote: [snip] > > I had trouble understanding this, too. > If the final syllable ends in a short vowel followed by a single consonant, > how is it a long syllable? The traditional answer was that it was "long by position". This was almost certainly due to an ancient Latin mistranslation of a Greek phrase meaning "long by convention." Both, however, misleadingly imply that some how a short vowel becomes ling - which is a nonsense. It is very important to distinguish the related but different concepts of vocalic length and syllabic quantity. ------------------------------------- Dirk Elzinga wrote: > Andreas: > > It seems to be a perfectly reasonable stress pattern. In most versions of > stress theory, the final consonant or syllable *can* be ignored (or rendered > "extrametrical" to use the technical term) for the purposes of reckoning > stress. You mentioned Latin -- Latin is a good example of final syllable > extrametricality: its description is something like "Stress the penult if it > is heavy; else stress the antepenult." Not 'something like' - that is precisely what it is :) >Notice that the final syllable never comes into it. Indeed it does not. -- Ray ================================== ================================== Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitudinem.