Re: Strange phonology

Kristian Jensen <kljensen@...> wrote:
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>
> I just had a closer look at what you wrote. The sound is definitely
> a linguolabial sound, as Nik pointed out. But I would also add the
> term sublaminal - thus, the sound is a "sublaminal linguolabial
> trill". The linguolabial sounds known to exist in the world today
> use the _upper_ lip and not the lower lip as you described.
Yes, I was thinking about that last night -- imagining new sounds,
I ran across the linguolabial (upper lip) sound. But I'm having
just one, the sublaminal one.

>
> As for representing them: The IPA has a diacritic - what looks like
> a tiny bracket placed under a coronal sound is the diacritic for
> linguolabial sounds. To add the distinction of it being sublaminal,
> I guess you would have to use this diacritic under a retroflex
> consonant even though technically it isn't a retroflex - but many
> retroflexes are sublaminal in the first place anyways. That's just
> one suggestion. There is bound to be more!!
Thanks for the suggestion, and please, keep going! But on this
I'll just remain simple. I'll use an mixed case system for the
transliteration, and the sublaminal linguolabial trill will be
just <T> (and an aspirated <Th>). It's not a good representation,
but it's the one the works best for me. There's a similarity
between the way in which you pronounce /T/ and this sound, as for
the position of the tongue, so I chose it. I guess the proper IPA
symbol would be an "r with a long leg" (retroflex trill) with the
linguolabial diacritic below it (in my IPA documentation it looks
like a pair of seagull wings).


--Pablo Flores

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