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Re: CHAT: oldest known records of vernacular languages [was Re:

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Saturday, June 29, 2002, 9:05
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, at 11:56 , John Cowan wrote:

> Ray Brown scripsit: > >> As John observes above, Middle English is by no means a _direct_ >> continuation of Old English - it has been influenced by Norse and, >> more particularly, by Norman French. > > Not quite what I said. The ME *writing tradition* is not a continuation > of the OE one, in the same sense that the Greek writing tradition from > pre-classical times to the present day is not a continuation of the > Linear B one.
True enough - and I had misunderstood you a little.
> Of course, the script (Latin) is shared between OE and > ME, but everything else from orthography to letter shape (in MS) > was abandoned and had to be re-created de novo.
It was indeed. The insular style of Latin script - still preserved to some extend by Irish - was supplanted by continental models and the phonemic spelling of Old English was supplanted by the ill-suiting Norman conventions from which derives our eccentric modern orthography.
> Per contra, the writing tradition from Latin to each of the modern > Romance languages is unbroken.
Exactly.
>> But if we're talking about the longest tradition of vernacular writing, >> then Greek beats all these youngsters by a long way. > > For sure. Of languages written today, I suppose that only > Chinese beats it.
I think that is so. Ray.

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John Cowan <jcowan@...>