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Re: CHAT: oldest known records of vernacular languages [was Re:

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Friday, June 28, 2002, 22:57
In a message dated 06/27/2002 03.03.46 PM, trwier@UCHICAGO.EDU writes:

>I seem to remember that some Tang dynasty poets wrote in the >vernacular, but I might be confusing that. Certainly plays >in the Yuan dynasty were often written in the vernacular.
IIRC, you are so right. AFAIK also the Ch'an Buddhists poets (i.e. the hermit-poet HanShan of Cold Mountain) wrote in "coarse" vernacular rather than the "more refined" Classical Chinese. And the Chinese Ch'an Buddhist poetry influenced Japanese Zen Buddhist poetry... Talking of NatLang vernaculars... the emerging literatures of creole languages (i.e. Bislama, Tok Pisin, Krio, etc.) are "vernaculars", eh? Is it possible in the not-too-distant future that a vernacular creole becomes a "classical" language of a culture/nation? Can it be argued that Bahasa Indonesia is on that "path"? 0_o? Hanuman Zhang ---------------------______________ "Excess is excrement. Excrement retained in the body is poison." - Ursula K. Le Guin "O wise humanity, terribly wise humanity! Of thee I sing. How inscrutable is the civilization where men toil and work and worry their hair gray to get a living and forget to play!" - Lin Yutang, _The Importance of Living_ "The phrase 'the cost of living' is a not-so-subtle threat that life itself can be For Sale to the highest bidder ... that living without dreams is 'realistic' and that dying in the gutter may be 'cheap'." - Yuri Mayakovskii