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Re: Further language development Q's

From:Steven Williams <feurieaux@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 18:52
 --- Joe <joe@...> a écrit :
> Carsten Becker wrote: > > > Hey! > > > > I still don't get the hang of developing Ayeri > into (a) > > daughter language(s), but if I should ever do > this, there > > are two things that I'm wondering about: > > > > 1) How can I get from [4] to /R/, i.e. [X, R]? > [4] is > > alveolar, and /R/ uvular, so at the opposite > end of > > the mouth. Are there any steps in between that > justify > > this change? OTOH, I've heard dialects that > use [4] > > instead of [R]. I've learnt that it's always > dialects > > that develop into another daughter languages. > > > Happened in a Natlang (r>R), anyway. What more > justification is needed?
It's fairly simple. German, for example, had (up to the sixteenth century), [r]. It's still pronounced that way in some dialects, I believe, and it's also common in some 'old-fashioned' speech, like operas, where [r] is seen as more 'melodic'. After about the sixteenth century, the German [r] shifted to [R], either because [R] is easier to articulate than [r] (it is, at least for me), or from influence from French (this sounds doubtful to me). At any rate, [r] does require a bit more effort to properly articulate than [R]. [r\I."gAr\dz] —S. Williams Vous manquez d’espace pour stocker vos mails ? Yahoo! Mail vous offre GRATUITEMENT 100 Mo ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ Le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger est arrivé ! Découvrez toutes les nouveautés pour dialoguer instantanément avec vos amis. A télécharger gratuitement sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com

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