Re: Case Terminology Question
From: | Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> |
Date: | Monday, July 28, 2003, 11:06 |
How about the appositive case? What you're describing looks
to me like the "naming" noun is being used as an appositive.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 04:07:57AM +0200, Harald Stoiber wrote:
> Hello, may you all enjoy this day! :-))
>
> Slowly and carefully I get things settled with my current conlang
> al-Nurah. The name may sound Arabic to you although the language
> has nothing significant in common with Arabic except the idea of
> tri-consonantic roots and the definite article "al". ;-)
>
> Now the introduction to my question...
>
> Al-Nurah has two ways of describing the attributes of a noun. For the
> difference to become clear I will supply instructive English examples:
> "the great Alexander" vs. "Alexander the Great"
>
> In my conlang the first example means that a certain "Alexander" is
> addressed and is described as being great. But his greatness is not
> required to identify him. It's just an information about him and maybe
> not even a significant one - like we can somehow call a cloth
> "green" even if it has only one tiny green spot on it. Whereas in the
> second example an "Alexander" is addressed which can be
> identified among all Alexanders because he is the great one. To
> specify the additional information in the first example al-Nurah
> would simply use the adjective "great" before "Alexander".
>
> The second example will be expressed via a "naming case",
> which supplies an additional "name" for its referent. In the case
> of "Alexander" we give him the additional name "the Great".
> So, preceding "Alexander" there would be the noun "great one"
> in the naming case. The naming case is put on the distinguishing
> marks within the category of the reference noun. In the above
> example: Among everybody who is an Alexander we pick the
> one who is also great - who is of relevant greatness among all
> Alexanders in question. Thus, we can safely give him the
> distinguishing sobriquet "the great".
>
> Now to the heart of my question:
>
> Looking at the above example I decided that it's all about
> giving additional names to a referent in order to narrow the
> number of entities it addresses. Since it's somehow about
> naming I temporarily called the case "nominative case" but
> I am not satisfied since this term is actually occupied by a
> totally different linguistic concept as you and I know. So,
> I am very very grateful for any better terms you may have
> for this. Can you help me out with one? Please! Thank you! :-)))
>
> Cheers,
> Harald
>
> --
> A mind all logic is like a knife all blade.
> (Rabindranath Tagore)