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Re: Animacy in active languages (was Re: Non-static verbs?)

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Friday, August 18, 2000, 16:31
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:22:42 +0200 =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Rhiemeier
<joerg.rhiemeier@...> writes:
> > I revised the case system in Chevraqis (and > > it's subject to further change, and I put the k back in to stand > for k, > > so now I have to figure out what q sounds like,
> Most people use it either for a voiceless uvular stop (as in Iraq) > or > for a voiceless labiovelar stop (as Tolkien did in the old spelling > _Qenya_ > for his High-Elven language), but I have seen it used for anything > from > /x/ (velar frivative) to /tS/ (postalveolar affricate; it is used > for > this or something similar in some transliteration systems of > Chinese, > cf. _Tai Chi Chuan_ /_Taijiquan_). One conlanger even used it for a > velar nasal.
> Joerg.
- Because of that "{q} as velar nasal" conlang i'm constantly thinking of Pablo's conlang Draseléq as if it ended with one of those Q-As-Velar-Nasal {q}s. He uses it for a uvular stop, right? <NOTICING THAT REFERING TO PABLO IN THIRD PERSON DOESN'T REALLY WORK WHEN HE'S RIGHT THERE READING THE SAME MESSAGE AS JOERG AND EVERYONE ELSE> Hmm...a few years ago my brother and a friend invented "second-and-a-half" pronouns - how you refer to someone who's standing right there while you're talking to someone else. Does anyone have a conlang that makes use of those? Theirs were: RE [ri:] = second-and-a-half person singular. DRAY (or DRÉ) [drej] = second-and-a-half person plural. There were two others to complete the set of object and subject pronouns, but my brother doesn't remember what they are and whether DRAY is object or subject. RE is for sure subject. He says that he came up with the form RE based on the "pronoun" RU, from the famous dragqueen Ru'Paul. RU was what it was decided to use to refer to Ru'Paul, who is really a he, but RUS ([ru:z], like "his") persona as RU portrays RUSELF in media is decidedly female. So the form of the (gender-nonspecific) second-and-a-half person singular pronoun was inspired by the "ru" pronoun. -Stephen (Steg) "verbing weirds language." ~ calvin (& hobbes)