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Re: My Apologies about Mysterious sounds

From:Chris Bates <chris.maths_student@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 21:10
Isaac A. Penzev wrote:

>Chris Bates wrote: > > > > >>I get English, Spanish (well, one dialect of Spanish... the rest just >>pronounce it s)... *thinks* what else am I missing? I know there are >>lots more... Arabic has it doesn't it? I might be wrong about that one... >> >> > >I can add Arabic, Swahili, Mn Greek, Bashkir, Turkmen (not sure about this >one). > >ObConlang: I didn't find /T/ or [T] in any of my projects, tho it still has >a chance to be introduced back into P4 - a Semitic conlang, but for now a >Proto-Semitic */T/ is reflected as /s/ like in Ethiopic lgs. Don't ask me >why. I don't find this particular sound too attractive. > > >
On second thoughts I'm not sure if Swahili had T before it started borrowing from Arabic... but the words that pop into my head with T in, like some of the numerals, are certainly borrowings from Arabic. I do think that (relatively) small number of native speakers, a couple of million people, pronounce T properly at least, although D --> d often I think, but the majority of fluent Swahili speakers, who speak it as a second language, tend to get it wrong.