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Re: OT (con)sign languages and secret messages

From:Sam Drost <sdrost@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 1:54
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From: "Roger Mills" <romilly@...>
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: OT (con)sign languages and secret messages

> Sam Drost wrote: > > > I remember recently seeing a post about how sign languages were hard to > > transcribe onto paper (or digital) since it is hard to transcribe the > > motion. Recently I came across the site Has anyone > looked > > at this and considered using it (or at least the symbols) as a basis for > > con-sign languages? I only took a very brief look at the site and,
> I > > don't know sign language at all (except maybe "the finger"), I probably > > wouldn't know if the site did a decent job of transcribing the motion
> > in sign language anyway. > > I haven't looked at the site, but IIRC, the people at Gallaudet College
> the deaf) have devised a system for transcribing ASL-- again IIRC they got > the idea from Labanotation, a system used to record ballet/dance.
A quick search for Labonotation brought up a site that explained it to me. The writing at is nowhere near as exact. But, it also doesn't require extensive explanation of the symbols.
> (re a signing system in Children of Dune...) > > What they'd do is place their hands > > in their laps and sign the "real" conversation > > Hmm, sounds a little like catcher-to-pitcher signals in baseball.??
I guess it does kind of. What strikes me as hard is that the characters were holding two totally different yet comprehendible conversations at the same time, which would require a degree of concentration that I, for one, have yet to develop. I think I would tend to mix the conversations or (more probable) I'd end up ignoring one completely, either way only one would be comprehendible. --- Sam Drost Americans will put up with anything provided it doesn't block traffic. - Dan Rather