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Re: Revised Eastern Vowel Orthography

From:FFlores <fflores@...>
Date:Sunday, May 23, 1999, 14:07
Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> wrote:
> > Consonants I'm still working on, but here's the phonemes so far: > Stops: /p/, /t/, /k/, /b/, /d/, /g/ > Fricatives: /P/, /f/, /s/, /v/, /z/ > Nasals: /m/, /n/ > Glides: /w/, /j/ > Liquids: /r/
What is this /r/?
> Affricates: /pP/ (/ts/ /dz/) > /P/ is derived from the voiceless allophone of /w/, and /pP/ is derived > from /pw/. /P/ is treated just like any other fricative, so that > epenthetic schwas had to be inserted in some cases, e.g., askwa --> > ask@Pa (since stop-fricative is not a legal onset, and fric-stop is not > a legal coda). /pP/ is treated as a single unit, not as a sequence, so > that initial /pP/ is perfectly legal.
I think it's a bit strange that an approximant /w_0/ becomes so fricative that an epenthetic schwa has to be inserted (especially in a cluster like /kw/). Of course, it's your system, but have you considered a separate labiovelar series? Also, /P/ and /f/ are not very distinct... more or less the same as with /h/ and /x/ (which someone once said that were found contrasting in any natlang). --Pablo Flores