Re: Revised Eastern Vowel Orthography
|From:||Andrew Smith <hobbit@...>|
|Date:||Monday, May 24, 1999, 21:51|
On Mon, 24 May 1999, Brian Betty wrote:
> Andrew Smith wrote, "I'm not sure if /P/ here is p or pf or something else.
> NZMaori has the letters p and wh, with wh pronounced /f/ nearly
> universally. Rarotongan Maori uses f for this letter."
> I thought that [wh] was the same letter which in IPA is written as Gk. phi,
> which I guess is what was meant by P. As in the Japanese 'f', which is made
> bilabially (like an F pronounced with lips instead of upper teeth and lower
> lips) - the Japanese 'f' is the sound Japanese h becomes before /u/.
> The voiced equivalent of phi is written with Gk. be:ta in IPA.
> Has the Maori P > f in modern speech?
>Mostly. Some dialects have h, w, hw for the wh sound, but the dictionary
I refer to discribes it as 'usually f'. This is probably due to its
near-universal decline into a second language over 150 years of contact
with English speakers. I believe the original pronunciation for wh was
/P/ but I haven't seen much evidence for it.
Andrew Smith, Intheologus firstname.lastname@example.org
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