Re: Futurese
From: | Tim May <butsuri@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 23:25 |
Christophe Grandsire writes:
> En réponse à Javier BF <uaxuctum@...>:
>
> > >[w]/[j]
> > >[n]/[m]/[N] (though the last one is not phonemic but an allophone of
> > /n/
> > before
> >
> > Then, please don't count [N] as a Japanese consonant.
> >
>
> Okay, one less. Still, my other counts still fit.
>
Hmm... the syllabic (or moraic, I guess, to be more exact) nasal, the
one that can be syllable-final, and is realized a number of ways (it
assimilates to a following stop, for one thing) is certainly a
seperate phoneme in Japanese. How this figures into counting the
_consonants_ I'm not sure. I believe it's possible for a distinction
to be made between "moraic nasal followed by n" and "doubled n", so it
would seem at least that some note should be made of this, assuming of
course that my understanding is correct.
>
> But that doesn't fit the language. If they are diphtongues, why can't they be
> used with consonants, since a diphtongue counts as one vowel?
>
May I ask, Christophe, why you spell diphthong in the French form when
writing in English? I don't get it.
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