Re: Futurese

Raymonb Brown wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
> >And, as I said, the trill would just be the "ideal"
> >pronounciation; for /r/ any rhotic (including that Chinese
> >"er") will do as long as you make clear the difference with
> >/l/ and /d/.
>
>Any rhotic?  Does that cover the Parisian uvular approximant, the trilled
>uvular still occasionally heardin France and found in parts of north Wales,
>e.g. and the Chinese sound denoted by {r} in Pinyin, i.e. [z`]?
To disallow [z`] for /r/ would seem a bit drastic to me. That may be because
it's a not too uncommon allophone of /r/ in my own speech ...

But according to the nearest encyclopaedia, Mandarin |r| is [Z], which's of
course already phonematic in Futurese. Assuming that this does actually
reflect a non-marginal Chinese pronunciation, and not merely lacking
knowledge of the IPA and/or precision in using it among the writers of said
encyclopaedia, saying that Mandarin |r| is an okay realization of /r/ would
be dangerous.

                                                    Andreas


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