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Re: French u [y] and ou [u] allophones? (was Re: anti-Sanskritism and more)

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 2, 2003, 19:34
Quoting Jean-François Colson <bn130627@...>:

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Jung" <RobertMJung@...> > To: <CONLANG@...> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:20 AM > Subject: anti-Sanskritism and more > > > > > Are the French u [y] and ou [u] allophones of a single phoneme? > > > > Surely not. There are many words for which a swich from [y] to [u] changes > the meaning. > > For example: > - bulle /byl/ (bubble) - boule /bul/ (ball, bowl) > - cul /ky/ (ass) - cou /ku/ (neck) > - sur /sy:R/ (sour) - sourd /su:R/ (deaf) > - du /dy/ (from/of the) - d'où /du/ (from where), doux /du/ (sweet) > - pur /py:R/ (pure) - pour /pu:R/ (for) > - la mûre /lamy:R/ (the mulberry/blackberry/brambleberry/dewberry) - l'amour > /lamu:R/ (love) > - and many others.
French has phonemic vocalic length? Andreas

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