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Re: CHAT: Punic sources

From:Adam Walker <dreamertwo@...>
Date:Thursday, December 14, 2000, 7:01
>From: Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...> >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:28:50 +0000 >
>And I think a division on similar lines would probably have happened even >if the Carthaginians had wiped out the Romans. I don't think the latter >would've been any more successful in stemming presure from Germanic tribes >on the western provinces. The two centers would've been different. >Carthage and Alexandria? Perhaps even more of Europe lost. A stronger >Christian north Africa might have caused the early Muslims to to sweep >across Asia Minor & the Balkans rather than across north Africa. > >The whole of western & central Europe might have been essentially Germanic >speaking. There'd certainly be no Ramance languages! >
Interesting. There might have been surviving Continental Celtic langs too. Perhaps in southern France and the Iberian pen. How would the Slavs have been affected? Christian North Africa. Germano-Celtic Christian Spain and France. Christianized Vikings? Launching crusades to liberate Arabized Italy and Greece. The Kiyev Califate? Wow! That opens a whole new can of worms. What happens to the age of exploration? The Renaisance? The Americas? Adam who likes this idea!
>[....] > > > >Here's the passage I was referring to, from Paul Jouon's 1923 French >grammar: > > > >Phoenician, which is represented by the inscription of King Kilamuwa > >(9th cent.) and by fairly numerous inscriptions later than the fifth > >cent., is closely related to Hebrew. The Punic dialect of Carthage and > >her colonies is related to Phoenician. > > > >I forgot to include the word "dialect". > >Yep - there were Phoenician dialects around the Med - especially on the >eastern seaboard of Spain. > >Ray. > >========================================= >A mind which thinks at its own expense >will always interfere with language. > [J.G. Hamann 1760] >=========================================
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