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Re: V2 (plus Géarthnuns serendipity)

From:DOUGLAS KOLLER <laokou@...>
Date:Thursday, April 20, 2000, 5:08
From: "Matt Pearson"

> >> So that Géarthnuns could be called SAOV, where A means "auxilliary"? > > > >Much as I'm tempted to call it an auxiliary and call it a day,
> I would be comfortable calling the "shléts" an "auxiliary" on the grounds > that it marks tense/aspect/agreement type things, but is an independent > element (rather than, say, an affix on the verb). The notion of
"auxiliary"
> is not--or should not--be inextricably linked to verb-ness, IMO.
Okay, okay, it's an auxiliary. :) Thanks to Nik, Dirk, and Matt for their input.
> You might want to have a look at the Australian language Warlpiri (a.k.a. > Walbiri), which is just like Géarthnuns in that tense/aspect/agr features > are indicated by a particle (called an "auxiliary") which follows the > first constituent of the clause--i.e., the V2 position. This particle > cliticises onto--i.e., forms a phonological unit with--the immediately > preceding element, and hence cannot occur as an utterance on its own. > The only real difference between Warlpiri and Géarthnuns in > this respect is that in Warlpiri the order of the verb and its arguments > is quite free (although SOV predominates), whereas in Géarthnuns the > position of the verb is more strict.
Too kewl.
> Other languages with short, clitic-like, V2 auxiliaries include some of > the South Slavic languages of the Balkans, among them Serbo-Croatian.
Perhaps that could be something the speakers picked up during their eastward schlep across Europe and Asia before they settled. Kou