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Re: Elvish ideas ...

From:Muke Tever <muke@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 20, 2003, 4:47
From: "Thomas R. Wier" <trwier@...>
> Quoting Chris Bates <christopher.bates@...> > > I'm checking my pronunciation again... there's definately a long u in my > > "suit"... "assume" pronounced asu:m feels english but maybe with an > > american accent to me... saying prezju:m that feels like a normal > > pronunciation to me too... > > I think Mark's point was that for the vast, vast (vast...) > majority of English speakers, vowels are allophonically > lengthened before voiced obstruents. Thus, for a speaker > to have a long [u:] before a voiceless obstruent like in > 'suit' is contrary to all expectation. It suggests that > you have a phonemic distinction of length (/u/ v. /u:/) > in addition to one of quality (/u/ v. /U/).
Arent all the tense vowels normally pronounced longer or diphthongized in many/most English dialects? [Well, almost all the vowels. I know I have [i] psilon in some places but usually for standard /I/.] *Muke! -- http://frath.net/

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