Re: Elvish ideas ...
From: | Muke Tever <muke@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, August 20, 2003, 4:47 |
From: "Thomas R. Wier" <trwier@...>
> Quoting Chris Bates <christopher.bates@...>
> > I'm checking my pronunciation again... there's definately a long u in my
> > "suit"... "assume" pronounced asu:m feels english but maybe with an
> > american accent to me... saying prezju:m that feels like a normal
> > pronunciation to me too...
>
> I think Mark's point was that for the vast, vast (vast...)
> majority of English speakers, vowels are allophonically
> lengthened before voiced obstruents. Thus, for a speaker
> to have a long [u:] before a voiceless obstruent like in
> 'suit' is contrary to all expectation. It suggests that
> you have a phonemic distinction of length (/u/ v. /u:/)
> in addition to one of quality (/u/ v. /U/).
Arent all the tense vowels normally pronounced longer or diphthongized in
many/most English dialects? [Well, almost all the vowels. I know I have [i]
psilon in some places but usually for standard /I/.]
*Muke!
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