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Re: USAGE: German Abbreviations (Re: Introducing myself, and several questions)

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Thursday, February 17, 2005, 13:26

Tristan McLeay <conlang@...> writes:
> On 17 Feb 2005, at 8.43 pm, Damian Yerrick wrote: > > > Heck some would argue that if Dutch were a conlang, its word > > |natie| for "nation" would offend anyone who remembers the > > Holocaust because it's pronounced roughly ["na.t_si].
I found this coincidence quite funny when I learned Dutch. I was puzzled about 'VN = Verenigde Naties' very much -- in German, it sounds like 'united nazis', but it really means 'united nations'... 'De Verenigde Naties hebben besloten dat ...': very confusing to hear this in the nieuws.
> I'm suddenly reminded of a question I have: > How does _National Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeitespartei_ (pardon the > spelling!) reduce into _Nazi_?
Well, the pronunciation starts with /,na.ts)jo:'na:l/, so ['na:ts)i:] isn't too different. Further, words in -/i/ can be associated with persons, so I suppose it simply worked like that.
> Is it just a phonetic spelling of the first four letters of > 'National'?
I think so.
> Is/was this a common way of abbreviating stuff in German?
No, this is special. There may be other examples, but it's not a *common* way of abbreviating. **Henrik