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Re: Irish Gaelic is evil!

From:Keith Gaughan <kmgaughan@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 13:07
Stephen Mulraney wrote:

> [t] does indeed correspond to [tS] in some varieties (Donegal Irish, IIRC, > and some (?all) Scottish varieties), but this is a trait heavily associated > with the those varieties; elsewhere in Ireland, [t] corresponds to [c] > or [tj] > (or perhaps [t_j]). Indeed, as you go from north to south through > Gaeldom :) > you successively pass through regions where the slender counterpart to [t] > is [tS], [c], and finally [tj] or something like it (in Cork, I think, but > Keith would know better).
For me, I can barely detect any palatalisation down here. For instance, I can remember having a discussion with with a friend of mine in first year about the how "spideog" is pronounced. She, and she's a gaeilgeoir BTW, pronounced it as, as it sounded to me, [spId'o:g], whereas I pronounced it as [SpIdZj'og]. I couldn't hear any changes between her slender and broad consonants. Or maybe Irish is losing them under influence from English... K.

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