Re: Unicode yogh?

Lars:
> > Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 13:51:00 -0000
> > From: And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
> >
> > Does Unicode contain a yogh, and, if so, has anyone spotted it
> > in Lucida Sans Unicode? I'm having to use an ezh, and it looks
> > a bit yucky.
>
> LATIN LETTER YOGH is at U+021C/D -- near the end of the Latin Extended
> B block, between LATIN LETTER T WITH COMMA BELOW and LATIN LETTER H
> WITH CARON. See <URL:http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0180.pdf> for
> the official word on it. (If you just want to see images of the
> glyphs, try <URL:http://charts.unicode.org/Glyphs/02/U021C.gif> and
> <URL:http://charts.unicode.org/Glyphs/02/U021D.gif>).
AFAICS from the glyph inventory display in Word with Lucida, t with
comma under it is in "private use area" and is followed by g with dot
under it. I can't fint t-comma or yogh in the Latin Extended B block.
I can't find either in Arial.

So are there any Unicode fonts that have a yogh -- or, are there any
fonts with eth, thorn, yogh and combining diacritics?

I know a yogh can be done with an ezh-lookalike, but it looks just
too ezhy to me, and not as yoghy as the more 3-like glyph I'm
accustomed to.

> I don't have Lucida Sans Unicode installed here, but neither Arial
> Unicode MS or CyberBit have glyphs for yogh; and Herman's Thryomanes
> font shows the same glyphs as for LATIN LETTER EZH.
>
> > (There's a long article somewhere on the web by Michael Everson
> > on the difference between yogh and ezh.)
>
> I'm sure it's due to ME that Unicode renamed its old yogh glyph to ezh
> in 1.1.5 or before, and introduced a separate code position for the
> proper one in 3.0.0.
Well done to you. I was remembering a real tour-de-force of an argument
for doing this written by Michael Everson (perhaps using arguments
put by you?). What I admired about it is that he was Right, but Right
about a point most people would think far too trivial to be concerned
with, yet he went to immense pains to state with great clarity and at
great length the arguments for there being a yogh/ezh distinction.

--And.

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