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From:Garth Wallace <gwalla@...>
Date:Friday, January 9, 2004, 5:08
Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:
> Hallo! > > On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:31:54 -0500, > "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...> wrote: > > >>On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 08:04:34AM -0800, Gary Shannon wrote: >> >>>Intersting thought. Has anyone ever tried to pass off >>>a conlang as "the real and true language of ancient >>>Atlantis?" >> >>You mean, other than Marc Okrand's Atlantean (created for >>the wretched Disney movie)? :) > > > Actually, my Hesperic family is a candidate for the language > of ancient Atlantis. My personal opinion about the Atlantis myth > is that Atlantis was an ancient civilization that existed on the > British Isles prior to the arrival of the Celts. It is the same > people who surface in Celtic and Germanic mythology as "Elves", > and Hesperic is their language. Of course, I don't claim that > Hesperic is indeed what was spoken in Britain back then, it is > just my speculative fancy about what that language *could* have > been like.
The best theory of Atlantis I've seen is this one: <> | In a sense, Atlantis actually existed, and was indeed destroyed by | the sea in a cataclysmic event, very plausibly lasting a day and a | night. Plato's account was wrong in several essential ways, but | was derived from correct, if garbled, historical accounts. Plato's | writings embodied the now lost words of Solon, a Greek ruler who | visited Egypt circa 590 BC. Plato's account of Atlantis was thus a | retelling of the story of Solon, who in turn told the stories that | he had heard during his trip to Egypt. | | In Egypt, Solon heard of the ancient land of Keftiu, a | island-nation named for holding one of the four pillars that | supported the Egyptian sky. Keftiu was, according to the Egyptians, | an advanced civilization that was the gateway to and ruler of all of | the lands to the far west of Egypt. Keftiu traded in ivory, copper, | and cloth. Keftiu supported hosts of ships and controlled commerce | far beyond the Egyptians domain. By Egyptian record, Keftiu was | destroyed by the seas in an apocalypse. Solon carried this story to | Greece, and passed it to his son and grandson. | | Plato recorded and embellished the story from Solon's grandson | Critias the younger, translating the land of the pillars which held | the sky (Keftiu) into the land of the titan Atlas. Keftiu-Atlantis | was Egypt's gateway to the "western" lands (Greece, Libya, and | beyond), and was the home of a civilization that held dominion over | the surronding lands. But Plato mistook the location of Atlantis: | Atlantis was not west of the Mediterranean, but was merely west of | Egypt. Yet Plato preserved enough detail about the land of Atlantis | that its identification is now unmistakeable. Plato never realized | that the land of Atlantis was already familiar to him: Atlantis was | the land of the Minoan culture, namely ancient Crete. The Minoan | culture spread its dominion throughout the nearby islands of the | Aegean, more than 1500 years BC.


Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>