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/Z/ etc. (and proto-hadwan)

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 22, 2001, 2:07
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From: "Andreas Johansson" <and_yo@...>
> > Just so as to say something (haven't in awhile), [Z] is my favorite > >sound, period. No other sound I've ever heard can compare to [Z]. I
> >myself to sleep with [Z]. If there's a better sound, it doesn't come out > >of > >a human mouth, says I. > > You'd like Tairezazh then! /Z/, romanized as {zh} in email*, is the past > participle ending (tho' the Tairezazh past participle is more sparingly
> than the English one), and a very frequent adjectival ending. Of course,
> and /dZ/ are pretty common phonemes in word roots too. > > Tho' personally, I think [S] is perhaps even nicer than [Z]. I like [s]
> [z] too, not to mention [dZ], [dz], [tS] and [ts].
Hehe. Hadwan has lots of those as phonemes, due to massive palatalization (which hasn't really any plausible explanation). /s/ (Proto-H *s, < Proto-IE *k' and rarely *t) /S/ (PH *s^ < PIE *gh' *g' *gh & rarely *d, *dh) /z/ (borrowings from Greek) /Z/ (PH *j, < PIE *dh) /ts/ or /tS/ (PH *c < PIE *t) /dz/ or /dZ/ (PH *j < PIE *d)[1] Actually, here's the whole PH inventory as generally reconstructed, just for the hoodles of it: vl fric vd fric vl stop vd stop lab *f *b pal *s, *j, *c *j vel *x *Y *k *g *s *s^ *r *m *l *n *w *y (*N)? *i(:) *u(:) m= l= *e(:) *ø *o(:) n= r= *a(:) (where these are not necessarily IPA-valued symbols. *f is written phi, *b is beta, *s, is s-cedilla, *j, is curly-tailed dotless j, *j is dotless j, *Y is gamma, *s^ is s-caron, *N is eng, *ø is o-slash) I expect this would be somewhat marked... A series of palatals and no dentals? The changes don't appear to be systemized either, e.g. *bh *dh *g'h *gh *gwh > *b *j, *s^ *g *g--I think actually there is a current opinion that says the sound spelled *s^ probably originally was voiced but devoiced in both Hadwan and its Asian cognate languages. In a marginally related note, I think I've actually learned how to pronounce palatal stops properly, from watching the movie "Life is Beautiful" and rather blatantly mispronouncing <principesa>... *Muke [1] Actually the greater part of Hadwan speakers still have simple palatal stops here, but they don't survive in the Achaian dialect I'm working on.