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Re: IPA block in Unicode

From:Paul Roser <pkroser@...>
Date:Monday, August 8, 2005, 4:49
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 22:49:45 -0500, Herman Miller <hmiller@...> wrote:

>John Vertical wrote: >> *"Squat reversed esh" and "turned r with fiskhook" (&#645; &#639;): I >> have heard that these are "retroflex vowel" and "alveolar vowel", but >> that makes little sense. > >These are used for the sounds in Mandarin Chinese written as "i" in >pinyin, in words such as "shi" and "si". Not officially part of the IPA. >They sound like prolonged versions of [z`] and [z], but without friction. > >> But about the "inverted glottal stop" (&#662;), "closed epsilon" >> (&#666;) and the turned h's with left hook (&#686;) or with left hook >> and a right tail (&#687;) I have no idea at all; nor about the whole of >> "Phonetic Extensions" block with all the letters like "capital ou" or >> "sideways m" or "ain". > >The "inverted glottal stop" was a lateral click (x in Zulu or Xhosa). I >believe I've seen the turned h's with hooks on a web page on Chinese >dialects. I don't know specifically which sounds they represent.
The turned-h with hook symbols are *rounded* versions of #645 and #639 above, possibly on analogy with plain turned-h for the rounded semivowel equivalent of [y]. Bfowol