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Re: Possessive Suffixes

From:Rob Haden <magwich78@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 20:18
On Tue, 17 May 2005 22:38:29 +0200, Christian =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6ttl?=
<christian.koettl@...> wrote:

>The relationship between the Akkadian possessive >suffixes, personal pronouns and independent >possessive pronouns is evident when looking at >the genetive-accusative forms of the personal >pronouns. As you assume, it is quite >straightforward. > >Singular: > Possessive suffix | personal pronoun (Gen.) | possessive pronoun >1 ja (i:) (?a) ja:ti ju:m (m.) jattum (f.) >2m ka ka:ta ku:m (m.) >2f ki ka:ti kattum (f.) >3m Su Sua:ti Su:m (m.) >3f Si Sia:ti Sattum (f.)
Also, as I think you mentioned, the verbal object suffixes are similar to (if not the same as) the possessive suffixes. There seems to be a suffix -a:t in the oblique pronominal forms.
>A similar relationship can be found in the plural. > >Btw, the Akkadian accusative suffixes, used to >indicate a pronominal object by attaching to the >verb, are similar to the possessive suffixes in >the singular, but to the personal pronoun >genetive-accusative in the plural. So in Akkadian >it is obvious that those suffixes are really just >the pronouns attached to nouns or verbs, resp.. > >In Middle Babylonian (and later on), the >possessive pronouns were replaced by /attu/ + a >possessive suffix.
It seems that this same element /attu/ is found in the feminine possessive pronouns. Or is this just coincidence?
>In the course of time, the pronominal suffixes >and the pronouns diverged. Just two examples for >development on those suffixes: >In New Babylonian (10 - 7 cent. BC)/-i:/has >developed into /-a:/; /-Su/ often becomes /-S/. >Personal pronouns changed as well, but >differently.
With the former, was /i:/ > /a:/ a common change with New Babylonian?
>May this post be more informative than my last one. ;-)
They have both been informative, thanks. :) - Rob

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