Re: Finno-Ugric languages
| From: | Tommie Powell <tommiepowell@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, September 18, 1998, 20:40 |
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From: Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>
To: Multiple recipients of list CONLANG <CONLANG@...>
Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Finno-Ugric languages
>Firstly, the Huns have nothing to do with Magyars (ie, Hungarians). The
>Huns were Turkic. Second, the Danube basin was inhabited by Avars at the
>time of the Magyar honfoglala's (Occupation of the Homeland) in 896. At
>that time there weren't any Slavs there at all; the Slavs were to the
>south.
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>-------ferke
>Ferenc Gy. Valoczy
>
Not true. As the Avars moved west through the Ukrainian region (a bit
before 800AD), they captured several Slavic tribes there and enslaved them,
and brought those Slavs along with them, into the Danube Basin and the
Czechoslovak region.
There were very few Avars and they had very many Slavic slaves, and they
were no good at all at administering an empire, and they quickly disappeared
from history, leaving those Slavs behind in that area. One of those
newly-free Slavic tribes (the Moravians) united all those Avar-imported
tribes to form the Greater Moravian Empire, which included the Danube Basin
as well as the Czechoslovak region. But the Greater Moravian Empire was
destroyed soon thereafter by the invasion of the Huns. The Huns then
occupied the entire Danube Basin, most of which is now Hungary but which
includes the populated (southern) part of Slovakia and the Transylvania area
of Rumania.
Of the Slavic tribes which the Avars had brought into central Europe, the
only ones that weren't in that Hun-ruled region then were the Moravians and
6 other small tribes, all 7 of whom were in what is now the Czech Republic.
They created a kingdom to preserve their independence, and then gradually
became a single people.
I don't doubt that some Southern Slavs (who got into the southern part of
the Balkan Peninsula earlier) may have drifted northward into the Danube
Basin before the Avars got there, to mix with the Dacians (who were the
Danube Basin's dominant population before the Avars struck, and who were a
Latin people related to the Rumanians). But the Avars didn't let the
Dacians go on living, did they? Why would they be any kinder to any
Southern Slavs they may have found there?