Re: new font creator
|From:||Remi Villatel <maxilys@...>|
|Date:||Friday, January 9, 2004, 23:34|
michael poxon wrote:
Do you plan to make a page for your syllabary although it needs some
"polishing" as you say?
I'm very interrested in syllabaries which are so rare. I'm working on one
for my conlang. It also need some polishing; I intend to simplify the most
used syllables. I've thought that the more you draw a symbol, the more its
shape changes. (I have pages full of alien syllables to prove it!) ;-)
According to what I guessed we both had similar ideas about what a syllabary
must look like: better than the japanese one. ;-) Simple CV symbols plus
diacritics marks for additionnal consonants. My diacritics are below the
symbol instead of above.
But we don't use the consonant diacritics the same way. You use them to
extend a syllable to CVC while I use them to make CCV and CSV syllables. But
I also have a special mute vowel in order to add a consonant or a semi-vowel
at the end of a syllable.
And I don't have a diacritic that remove the consonant at the beginning of
the syllable like you (I guessed that's the way your syllabary works.)
because I have symbols for the vowels alone... although absolutly no word
begins with a vowel. Anyway, they're useful to create amazing double-vowel
I could have translate "Welcome to my Shaquelingua site!" but the syllables
are all simple CV or C(v) in this sentence.
By the way, "h" is the mute vowel and if you find that "y" is a strange way
to represent [w], it's because it usually represents [H] which comes from
[y], but "y" is pronounced [w] in front of [o] and [O] for the sake of
Well, here we go with our sentence:
teoth'ska tökyoe jishso ; göko ; teoth'ra tökyoe dötvëe.
[teot_h^sk))a tO.kw))oe jis.so] [gOko]
[teot_h^ra tO.kw))oe dO.tv))Ee]
= (intemporal retrospective indicative)'not-one bad child
; only ;
(intemporal retrospective indicative)'several bad parent.
= There are no bad children, only bad parents. (Inuktitut proverb)
The symbols are:
te|o|th sa(^k) tö|ko(^y)|e ji|sh|so
te|o|th ra tö|ko(^y)|e dö|të(^v)|e
Where (^?) represents a consonant/semi-vowel diacritic of which the sound is
inserted in the middle of the syllable.
Any way, that make a lot of symbols. (14 consonants + 2 semi-vowels)
multiplied by (9 vowels + 1 mute one) plus 9 vowels alone plus 9 diacritic
marks plus punctuations marks = over 178. Luckily there are no lowercase vs.
uppercase distinction! ;-)
Back to Omeina. According to what I understood of your syllabary,
Elandúna Omeina Ruskuladea dari!
must be written:
E|la|(^n)dú|na O|me|i|na Ru|s|ku|la|de|(!n)a d?|(!n)a|ri
Where (^?) represents an adding diacritic and (!n) the removing one.
I'm not sure about the last word "dari". (I think you put no exclamation
mark.) The first symbol looks like the "de" but there's a little line
missing. So, I don't know... "d?"
Last thing to say: Apparently, we are both connected to the "collective
unconsciousness", some of your symbols look like some of my own. Especially
your "ku" ressembles my "pu" and your "ri" ressembles my "lh"... and
vice-versa of course! And I think that your "u" sounds is represented by a
symbol very close to the cipher "3"... Just like me! Well, I guess.
PS: I like your syllabary. ;-)