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Re: Urgently required: PIE refill!

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, June 16, 2000, 10:29
At 12:38 10/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
>No-one seems to have got back to me on my PIE question! Please help! I hate >to seem to be bugging you, but I'm at my wit's end! Here's my original >request: > >What were the PIE "secondary" verbal endings? And what were the dual verbal >inflections. I know what they were used for, but what did they look like? >The Sanskrit endings -vah, -thah and -tah in the present points to IE forms >*-wos *-dhos (?) *-tos, are these correct and what were the forms in the >other "tenses". While we're at it, what were the dual pronouns? Please, >please, please help me! Aredos' future depends on this! > >You don't have to reply to the list for this, you can just reply to me if >you prefer. >
OK, I know Padraic already replied but as I promised I would also I do it now (sorry for the delay). So here are the secondary verbal endings as given by my little booklet on Indo-European: Active: 1sg: *-m (athematic), *-oH2 (thematic) 2sg: *-s 3sg: *-t, *-s 1du: *-wes 2du: *-te- 3du: *-te- 1pl: *-me(s), *-mo(s) 2pl: *-te 3pl: *-nt Medio-passive: 1sg: *-H2ey (primary, the secondary one is not reconstructable according to the author) 2sg: *-so(r) 3sg: *-(t)o(r) 1du: (not given) 2du: (not given) 3du: (not given) 1pl: *-medhH2 2pl: *-dhwe 3pl: *-nto(r) Perfect: 1sg: *-H2e 2sg: *-tH2e 3sg: *-e the other ones are not given. the primary endings are simply made by adding an *-i (*-y after vowels) after the secondary ending. It is supposed to be a morpheme of 'hic et nunc'. A *-w- appears sometimes before or after the perfect endings (only 1st and 2nd person) without any reconstructable meaning. The *-r- can also appear before perfect endings. The booklet says that the 1st and 2nd persons have a common base between dual and plural and doesn't say how they were differentiated: - 1st person: *wey-, *we:-, oblique cases based on *ns-(s)me- (syllabic n), atonic form *nos. - 2nd person: *yu-, oblique cases *yu-(s)me-, atonic form *wos. Well, that's all I found. I hope it will help. Christophe Grandsire |Sela Jemufan Atlinan C.G. "Reality is just another point of view." homepage : http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr (ou : http://www.bde.espci.fr/homepages/Christophe.Grandsire/index.html)