Re: Urgently required: PIE refill!
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Friday, June 16, 2000, 10:29 |
At 12:38 10/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
>No-one seems to have got back to me on my PIE question! Please help! I hate
>to seem to be bugging you, but I'm at my wit's end! Here's my original
>request:
>
>What were the PIE "secondary" verbal endings? And what were the dual verbal
>inflections. I know what they were used for, but what did they look like?
>The Sanskrit endings -vah, -thah and -tah in the present points to IE forms
>*-wos *-dhos (?) *-tos, are these correct and what were the forms in the
>other "tenses". While we're at it, what were the dual pronouns? Please,
>please, please help me! Aredos' future depends on this!
>
>You don't have to reply to the list for this, you can just reply to me if
>you prefer.
>
OK, I know Padraic already replied but as I promised I would also I do it
now (sorry for the delay).
So here are the secondary verbal endings as given by my little booklet on
Indo-European:
Active:
1sg: *-m (athematic), *-oH2 (thematic)
2sg: *-s
3sg: *-t, *-s
1du: *-wes
2du: *-te-
3du: *-te-
1pl: *-me(s), *-mo(s)
2pl: *-te
3pl: *-nt
Medio-passive:
1sg: *-H2ey (primary, the secondary one is not reconstructable according to
the author)
2sg: *-so(r)
3sg: *-(t)o(r)
1du: (not given)
2du: (not given)
3du: (not given)
1pl: *-medhH2
2pl: *-dhwe
3pl: *-nto(r)
Perfect:
1sg: *-H2e
2sg: *-tH2e
3sg: *-e
the other ones are not given. the primary endings are simply made by adding
an *-i (*-y after vowels) after the secondary ending. It is supposed to be
a morpheme of 'hic et nunc'. A *-w- appears sometimes before or after the
perfect endings (only 1st and 2nd person) without any reconstructable
meaning. The *-r- can also appear before perfect endings.
The booklet says that the 1st and 2nd persons have a common base between
dual and plural and doesn't say how they were differentiated:
- 1st person: *wey-, *we:-, oblique cases based on *ns-(s)me- (syllabic n),
atonic form *nos.
- 2nd person: *yu-, oblique cases *yu-(s)me-, atonic form *wos.
Well, that's all I found. I hope it will help.
Christophe Grandsire
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