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Re: Core Cases (was Re: Ditransitivity (again!))

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Monday, February 2, 2004, 18:17
Excuse me for barging in here, but I thought this was an interesting look
into the semantic structure of languages.

On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 02:03:07AM -0500, Roger Mills wrote:
[snip]
> I can open a conversation with: "John loves Mary". After that, I can refer > to Mary as she/her, John as he/him. I could not start off with "John loves > her" or "He loves her"and definitely not with *"John/he loves" nor *"loves > Mary/her". Therefore, the verb "love" requires two roles/actants/"cases", > namely an actor/agent and a thing-acted-upon/patient/object. Fillmore, in > particular, called these "cases, and schematized it as: LOVE [A, O]. (This > use of "case" is not to be confused with grammatical cases like Nominative, > Accusative etc. How A and O are marked in their surface realizations is up > to each language.) > > "Give" requires at minimum 3 actants, A/giver, O/thing given, > D(ative)/recipient. Only if the context is clear can O or D be omitted--
[snip] IMHO, it's questionable whether the O here is the same as the O in the previous verb (love). It can easily be argued that the actants of "give" are A/giver, O/recipient, D/thing given, where D designates some third actant (probably not the dative as understood in IE langs).
> "Sell" seems to require only an A and an O, the D is optional and in some > cases may be unknown. The price is helpful information but is optional, and > while it is part of the meaning of "sell" it isn't crucial to the > grammaticalness of a sentence (and may also be unknown).
You could also say that D or O may be omitted from "give", too. You could give something to John, without specifying what was given, or you could give away a present, without specifying to whom you gave it. (E.g., "I gave away my old cupboard.") [snip]
> It's in this sense, I think, that A O and D can be considered "core cases" > in the semantic framework of verbs
[snip] If you assume that the O of a trivalent verb such as "give" is the same as the O of a transitive verb such as "love". You could also say A is optional, in cases such as "John was given the book". Of course, in English this is realized as a passive construct, and John has the A role; but it could be argued that the verb "give", semantically speaking, need only take the O and D actants in this particular instance. T -- Chance favours the prepared mind. -- Louis Pasteur

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