Re: An incongruent orthography: Maggel
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Monday, April 8, 2002, 6:22 |
En réponse à J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>:
>
> Voiced velarized lateral approximant /L/ :)
Yep, that's the one! Since I was thinking in my revival of Maggel to make it
like n (assimilating to the place of articulation of the following consonant,
though I can't think of what would be a bilabial l :)) ), it's definitely the
sound I meant!
One of my favourite
> sounds
> this side of /F/ labiodental nasal "dark 'm'" (as in "murky," "museum"
> &
> "murder" vs. that of the purely bilabial 'm' /m/ in "mommy","mother",
> "enemy
> mine", etc.)
>
You pronounce the first ones with /F/?!!! Well, I'll consider that too for
Maggel (in the first instance of Maggel, there was little assimilation. I'm
gonna change that :)) . Another way to put the spoken word at light-years from
the written word :)) ).
>
> Damn ;)
>
Yeah, my linguistic knowledge was quite poor at that time (it changed within
months. A few months after Maggel, I discovered the Basque language and created
Moten in reaction to it :)) . Though before I had made that other monster which
is Azak :)) ).
>
> "Dark" or "hard" usually AFAIK means a voiced consonant is either
> velarized, retroflexed or palatalized in phonemic contrast with other
> "plainer" voiced consonants. I dunno if this right or not... ::pokes
> Dirk/Kou/JCowan/etc.:: Heeeelp...
>
Sounds like what I meant anyway :)) .
> Christophe, I like the _a maggel_ rough sketch. Looks as intriguing
> as
> Degaspregos (sp?) ;)
>
Correct spelling. At least Degaspregos had a simple spelling :)) .
Christophe.
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