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Re: An incongruent orthography: Maggel

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Monday, April 8, 2002, 6:22
En réponse à J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>:

> > Voiced velarized lateral approximant /L/ :)
Yep, that's the one! Since I was thinking in my revival of Maggel to make it like n (assimilating to the place of articulation of the following consonant, though I can't think of what would be a bilabial l :)) ), it's definitely the sound I meant! One of my favourite
> sounds > this side of /F/ labiodental nasal "dark 'm'" (as in "murky," "museum" > & > "murder" vs. that of the purely bilabial 'm' /m/ in "mommy","mother", > "enemy > mine", etc.) >
You pronounce the first ones with /F/?!!! Well, I'll consider that too for Maggel (in the first instance of Maggel, there was little assimilation. I'm gonna change that :)) . Another way to put the spoken word at light-years from the written word :)) ).
> > Damn ;) >
Yeah, my linguistic knowledge was quite poor at that time (it changed within months. A few months after Maggel, I discovered the Basque language and created Moten in reaction to it :)) . Though before I had made that other monster which is Azak :)) ).
> > "Dark" or "hard" usually AFAIK means a voiced consonant is either > velarized, retroflexed or palatalized in phonemic contrast with other > "plainer" voiced consonants. I dunno if this right or not... ::pokes > Dirk/Kou/JCowan/etc.:: Heeeelp... >
Sounds like what I meant anyway :)) .
> Christophe, I like the _a maggel_ rough sketch. Looks as intriguing > as > Degaspregos (sp?) ;) >
Correct spelling. At least Degaspregos had a simple spelling :)) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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John Cowan <jcowan@...>