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Re: Possessive and Genitive

From:David J. Peterson <thatbluecat@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 29, 2003, 19:18
Mark wrote:

<<But in any given language which has both a genitive noun case and
 another means of indicating possession, there are likely to be
 applications of the genitive where it cannot be replaced by the
 alternate possessive construct, where such restriction is
 governed purely by the semantics of the application>>

A look at Turkish:

ev-im /house-1sg./ "My house"
ev-in kapM-sM /house-GEN. door-OBJ./ "The door of the house"

In this case, I would call the first the possessive, and the second the genitive.
Why? I don't know. Maybe 'cause I always associated the possessive with
pronouns (though I don't know why, given one of my L1's is English). My Turkish
book calls the second one not a genitive construction, but a possessive
construction, though I suspect it's because it doesn't look like a Latin
genitive, since the order is reversed (also, words can intervene between the
two constitutents).

Anyway, I originally had a point in bringing this up. I forget that point. So, I'll
just add my examples. :)

-David