> From: Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
> Subject: Re: CONLANG Digest - 15 Oct 2000
>
> > I still wonder how young Spanish people (of my age: 25 or so) pronounce
> >ll...
>
> /j/ or /Z/ for me, usually (not Spain Spanish though).
My mistake, not /Z/ (that's the English approximation) ... more like
[j\] --voiced palatal fricative. (Right after I posted this my brain went
"what _were_ you thinking?")
> From: John Cowan <cowan@...>
> Subject: Re: OT: Prayer, ritual and magic // was conlang website
>
> > (1) My beliefs about the afterlife. The whole point of my faith is that
> > given personal committment, God will transform us into perfect
beings
> > incapable of sin.
>
> That is perfectly consistent with a place of rehabilitation (not
punishment)
> after death. Do you expect that God will make you a perfect being merely
> by waving his hand, after all? If that happened, you would no longer be
> yourself.
It's in I Corinthians 15:50-53. He rightly calls it a mystery.
> > That is what Heaven is all about. As for Hell, I
> > believe it to be the place where souls are destroyed if they refuse
> > to accept the only God who can possibly bring them fulfilment.
> > Since I believe that souls are literally destroyed in Hell, I do not
> > believe that Hell is eternal.
>
> That view is unorthodox (except to 7th Day Adventists and related sects)
Right (that's me, there).
> but (I suspect) privately widely held: Lewis Carroll, otherwise an
entirely
> orthodox Anglican, believed it.
C.S. Lewis in "The Problem of Pain" also thinks something like it--he speaks
of the souls as immortal but--
"Our Lord, while stressing the terror of hell with unsparing
severity, usually emphasises the idea, not of duration but of
_finality_. Consignment to the destroying fire is usually
treated as the end of the story--not as the beginning of a new
story. That the lost soul is eternally fixed in its diabolical
attitude we cannot doubt: but whether this eternal fixity
implies endless duration--or duration at all--we cannot say."
--which fits in with whoseever idea about it not being in time but in
eternity.
*Muke!
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