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Re: English notation

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Friday, June 29, 2001, 16:05
Muke Tever wrote:

> [N] after front vowels either is not the same as the [N] after, say, [V] in > "rung"--it's assimilated to the vowel, producing something closer to [i:JglIS] > (where [J] = palatal nasal).
Whoa dude. That's weird. Like, totally. ;-)
> Same goes for the many words ending in -ing. <sing> is absolutely not [sIN] > (even if it may be /sIN/ phonemically). (But that may just be me, as two > people next to me I just asked have [I] in -ing, .)
Aaaah... now there we have it. My proposed notation is phonemic, not phonetic. It's obvious that English has a plethora of possible phonetic realizations, so it's futile to attempt to notate it phonetically. Therefore, in phonemic notation, sing would be <sing> rather than <seeng>.
> >Even an average American, who knows as good as nothing about > >linguistics, would have to realize after some contemplation that the > >sound in "English" is the same as in "bin": a short, lax /I/. > > The second vowel, surely ;p
Jerk. ;-) And since we're nitpicking: The second vowel in English isn't nasalized, but "bin" is. =P -- Christian Thalmann