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Re: English notation

From:David Peterson <digitalscream@...>
Date:Friday, June 29, 2001, 7:31
In a message dated 6/28/01 6:28:21 PM, tom@TELP.COM writes:

<< I say /i:NglIS/ (remember we were conflating N with Ng), and I suppose
"rely" varies somewhere between /ri:laj/, /rIlaj/, and /r@laj/, depending
on emphasis and carefulness of speech. I was also compromising a bit
between what would be accurate phonetically and how English speakers are
likely to understand the phonemes in those words; most non-phoneticians
would probably tell you that "English" and "rely" both have a "long E". >>

    In my dialect, I can't have any "short" vowels before /N/ or /r/ except
for I can have /Er/, as in "air".  I say /i:NglIS/, definitely, and mostly
/r@laj/.  I totally disagree with all those "rules" that say words like
"singer" are pronounced /sINr=/, or, even worse, /sINgr=/, and that "fear" is
pronounced /fIr/.  No way!  If anything, "fear" has two syllables in my
dialect: /'fi.jr=/.  So, where's everyone else?  I guess I'll read the rest
of these e-mails and see.

-David

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