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Re: TRANS: a love poem

From:FFlores <fflores@...>
Date:Saturday, August 14, 1999, 15:53
nicole perrin <nicole.perrin@...> wrote:
>=20 > OK, here's my version of the poem, in Khundr=FBzn. In my little > conculture, however, this poem would not be written in Khundr=FBzn, whi=
ch
> is the men's language, it would be written in Nevok=E1nyi, which is the > "lovely language", which is used by women and lovers. Khundr=FBzn is m=
uch
> more, phallic, shall we say. But Nevok=E1nyi is undergoing really big > renovations, so I'll translate this poem into Khundr=FBzn anyway (which=
,
> by the way, Andrew, also follows Tolkien's Orcish phonology loosely, in > order to make it sound man-ish).
How is a language 'phallic'? I think Khundr=FBzn certainly looks Orcish. Though it's also loosely Ad=FBnaic-ish (if we're speaking of Tolkien langs). Could you tell us how it is pronounced? Are circumflex vowels long?
> PROG-progressive particle, also used as an adjectiviser
Could you give some examples? I really can't figure it out from this text.
> Daipn Gh=E2rapn > REFL.2SG.F lock.PRES.2SG >=20 > R=FBr zor daipn mangh opn ul gh=E2rapn? > What for REFL.2SG.F shell POSS.2SG.F in lock.PRES.2SG > Why do you lock yourself in your shell? >=20 > Aipn thirzakh sn=E2, ash aipn taush zor nobakh > 2SG.F know.PRES.1SG NEG, and 2SG.F DEM.3SG.M for love.PRES.1SG > I don=92t know you, and for that I love you.
Cool! Did you know you changed the sense of the original text and yet produced a nice result? It was supposed to read 'Why you lock yourself in your shell, I don't know (it), (and) only for that I love you'. This outcome is meaningful and possible too, since the object can be understood in Drasel=E9q (as it actually is in 'I love'). I hope we can see some Nevok=E1nyi soon, so that we can compare with Khundr=FBzn (lovely vs. phallic, which one will win? :) BTW your mail is always set to reply to your private address, not the list. Could you check it so that we don't bother you with double postings? --Pablo Flores