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Re: Ergative or Vocative?

From:Christophe Grandsire <grandsir@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 6, 1999, 6:45
Danny Wier wrote:
> > Question. I'm working on some basic grammar in Tech, whatever I can at this > time. So far I have a few noun cases worked out, and I think I'm going to > decline nouns according to this scheme: > > 'water' 'bride' > Nominative weat k@ul [wE:t, k@ulw] > Oblique stem weta- k@lu- [wEta, k@lu] > Accusative wetaam k@luam [wetam, k@luVm] > Genitive wetaun k@luun [wetaumw, k@lu:n] > Gen. of acc. wetamaun k@lumaun [wetamaunw, k@lumaunw]
A genitive of accusative? Does the difference between the genitive and the genitive of accusative as something like the two genitive I use in Azak: the genitive ergative (if the completed noun is turned into a verb, the completer will turn into an ergative) and the genitive absolutive (if the completed noun is turned into a verb, the completer will turn into an absolutive)?
> Vocative? weta k@lu > > So for the zero-ending, what would be more likely in a natlang -- a vocative > case or an ergative? >
A vocative without a doubt. In ergative/absolutive languages, it's usually the absolutive which is unmarked. But I'm sure we can find at least one counter-example :) .
> Thanks, > > Danny > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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