Re: Greenlandic: 4th Person?

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:08:22 +0200, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
wrote:
>Eldin Raigmore writes:
>>...
>> Isir-puq ingil-lu-ni-lu.
>>...
>> Pilirtuttumik irrui-vuq ini-mi-nul-lu majuar-lu-ni.
>>...
>Was that an exact copy of what was written in that book/paper?
Those are exact copies of examples 37b and 37c on page 31 of Julien’s book;
I don’t know whether or not she made exact copies of Fortescue’s book/paper.

The suffixes in question are definitely:
39a “-put” and “-pput” for -IND.3p and –IND.3p respectively;
39b “-puq” for –IND.3s;
39c “-vuq” for –IND.3s.

>Because it should be -poq and -voq instead of *-puq and *-vuq.
>Kalaallisut has an /a i u/ vowel system and before uvulars, /u/ is
>pronounced as [o] or even [O] and thus written as _o_.
>The underlying ending is often written as 'Vuq', but is realised as
>either -poq or -voq or -por- or -vor- (and maybe even -pu- and -vu,
>although I don't remember an example), depending on phonological
>context.
There are other Greenlandic examples in Julien’s book that seem to say what
you seem to be saying they should say.

Examples 32a and 32b are from Sadock 1980:311
“Noun Incorporation in Greenlandic”, Jerrold M. Sadock, Language 56, 300-319,
1980

32a
Suulut timmisartu-lior-poq.
Soren.ABS aeroplane-make-IND.3s

32b
Sulu-usa-qar-poq aquute-qar-luu-ni-lu.
wing-like-have-IND.3s rudder-have-CTMP-4s-and


But all the examples from Fortescue have an <o> written for the vowel in
those suffixes.

39a
Illu-at kusanar-puq kial-lu-ni-lu.
house-3p be.pretty-IND.3s be.warm-CTMP-4s-and

39b
Qimmiq taanna nakuarsu-vuq saamasuu-llu-ni-li.
dog that be.strong-IND.3s be.gentle-CTMP-4s-but

So does one other example from one other source.

From Denny 1989:239
(“The Nature of Polysynthesis in Algonquian and Eskimo” by J. Peter Denny,
pp. 230-258 in “Theoretical Perspectives on Native American Languages”,
edited by Donna B. Gerdts and Karin Michelson, SUNY Press, Albany, New York.)

Erner-taar-put, aster-lu-gu-lu Mala-mik.
son-get-IND.3p call-CTMP-3O-and Mala-INSTR