Re: USAGE: [CONLANG] A discourse on Phonemics (was: Re: E and

Steg Belsky writes:
 > On Sat, 4 May 2002 18:46:32 +0100 And Rosta <a-rosta@...>
 > writes:
 > > > But anomalously so, like /RQT/ for "wrath".  For me, /Q/ is one of
 > > the most
 > > > reliable markers of Not-My-Accent.
 >
 > > I don't understand. Even if AusE has /Q/ in "wrath", it still has a
 > > low
 > > back vowel phoneme, and anyway, where is the anomaly. As for /rQT/,
 > > that's
 > > not an AusE preculiarity; rather, /raT/ is an AmE peculiarity.
 > > (Hence
 > > British newspapers calling _Portnoy's complaint_ _The gripes of
 > > Roth_.)
 > > --And.
 > -
 >
 > Wait... so if "wrath" is /rQt/ in Australian English, how do they
 > pronounce "wroth" there?
 >
 >
I've no idea how the Australians pronounce it, but if the got it from
RP it's either the same as wrath, or what my dictionary gives as
r, schwa, inverted capital omega, theta - I'm not good enough to put
that in X-SAMPA, but the diphthong is the same as that in "no".  (It's
not a word I use often enough to be sure of the pronunciation, myself.)