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Re: Futurese: Colours

From:Muke Tever <mktvr@...>
Date:Friday, October 4, 2002, 12:30
From: "Javier Barrio" <uaxuctum@...>
> > and probably less than orange (especially if > > orange is considered to include shades of > > brown that fall into that range of hues). > > Yes, especially; because if not, orange is only > present in nature in oranges, carrots and... > anything else? > And yet B&K proclaimed it a universally basic > colour...
If you'd read B&K yet you'd know by "basic" they mean that it is not a subcategory of another color. In English you can't say that focal <orange> is a 'kind' of <red> or <yellow> (or <blue> for that matter).
> > I don't agree entirely with the idea of the > > 11 basic color categories that just happen to > > match the basic color words in English (if you count > > "pink" as a basic color, which at least to me > > is questionable)
That is kind of an odd consequence of the B&K finding that in _any_ language with 11 basic color categories they would match the basic color words of English. [Of course the whole thing could be because of the sting of English influence--certainly the word "blue" seems to spread like a virus....]
> Dare to question the basicness of pink, stated as > a universal fact by that B&K survey everybody > seems to believe in almost as a religion?
Considering <pink> is in the _latest-evolving_ tier of B&K's basic colors, it's pretty normal that it doesn't feel "central".
> From my point of view, an IAL must be designed in a > way similar to the metric system, i.e. providing a > regularized standard. If the metric system had been > designed to imitate what natural languages used to > do regarding measures, it would have ended up being > completely chaotic: 12 inches = 1 foot, 3 feet = 1 > yard, > 2 yards = 1 fathom, 5.5 yards = 1 rod, 220 yards = 1 > furlong, 1,760 yards = 1 mile; 3 scruples = 1 dram, > 8 drams = 1 ounce, 12 ounces = 1 pound... Simply, > wonderful.
So you want an IAL that Americans will never switch to? :-) Speaking of metricity, your example images have a lot of spot colors and not very many gradients--where are the borders, the ranges of these colors? E.g., at what point does <verde> become <glauco>? *Muke! -- http://www.frath.net/