Re: Futurese: Colours
From: | Muke Tever <mktvr@...> |
Date: | Friday, October 4, 2002, 12:30 |
From: "Javier Barrio" <uaxuctum@...>
> > and probably less than orange (especially if
> > orange is considered to include shades of
> > brown that fall into that range of hues).
>
> Yes, especially; because if not, orange is only
> present in nature in oranges, carrots and...
> anything else?
> And yet B&K proclaimed it a universally basic
> colour...
If you'd read B&K yet you'd know by "basic" they mean that it is not a
subcategory of another color. In English you can't say that focal <orange> is a
'kind' of <red> or <yellow> (or <blue> for that matter).
> > I don't agree entirely with the idea of the
> > 11 basic color categories that just happen to
> > match the basic color words in English (if you count
> > "pink" as a basic color, which at least to me
> > is questionable)
That is kind of an odd consequence of the B&K finding that in _any_ language
with 11 basic color categories they would match the basic color words of
English. [Of course the whole thing could be because of the sting of English
influence--certainly the word "blue" seems to spread like a virus....]
> Dare to question the basicness of pink, stated as
> a universal fact by that B&K survey everybody
> seems to believe in almost as a religion?
Considering <pink> is in the _latest-evolving_ tier of B&K's basic colors, it's
pretty normal that it doesn't feel "central".
> From my point of view, an IAL must be designed in a
> way similar to the metric system, i.e. providing a
> regularized standard. If the metric system had been
> designed to imitate what natural languages used to
> do regarding measures, it would have ended up being
> completely chaotic: 12 inches = 1 foot, 3 feet = 1
> yard,
> 2 yards = 1 fathom, 5.5 yards = 1 rod, 220 yards = 1
> furlong, 1,760 yards = 1 mile; 3 scruples = 1 dram,
> 8 drams = 1 ounce, 12 ounces = 1 pound... Simply,
> wonderful.
So you want an IAL that Americans will never switch to? :-)
Speaking of metricity, your example images have a lot of spot colors and not
very many gradients--where are the borders, the ranges of these colors? E.g.,
at what point does <verde> become <glauco>?
*Muke!
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