Re: Campaign for rational Klingon romanisation (was Re: Phoneme system for my still-unnamed "Language X")

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:54:49 -0400, Ph.D. <phil@...> wrote:
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>Jeffrey Jones wrote:
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>> I'm not sure which msg in this thread to reply to ....
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>> B. Garcia <madyaas@...> wrote:
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>> >On 08/09/05, Ph.D. <phil@...> wrote:
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>> >> This has been discussed on this list before.
>> >>
>> >> I don't like mixed-case romanizations either. But the reasoning
>> >> is said to be that the lowercase letters are pronounced close to
>> >> their usual values in English. The capital letters are quite
different.
>> >> They were meant to serve as a guide to the actors who would be
>> >> speaking Klingon in the movies. The capital letters mean Warning:
>> >> these letters are not pronounced as in English!
>> >
>> >Well, that's fine of course for actors, but I wonder why it should've
>> >ever been considered for print publications and the like? Klingon
>> >Latin alphabet looks like what teenagers write when they're in chat
>> >rooms:
>> >
>> >OmG LIke DiD yoU SeE WhAt SHe wRotE thE OthER DaY?
>>
>> I shouldn't be offended, but I still _feel_ offended, since at least one
>> my orthographies uses mixed case: 'Yemls uses all 52 lower and
>> upper case characters.
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>Why feel offended? There are lots of conlangy things I like that others
>don't, and vice versa. It wouldn't be very interesting if we all thought
>alike.
Well, maybe I'm just cranky from not enough feedback on my conlangs. I'd
better drop out of this thread.

>If you're using all fifty-two upper- and lower-case characters, you
>have good reasons for that orthography. The point about Klingon is
>that (with the exception of q and Q) each letter is only used once,
>either in uppercase or lowercase. (The choice of upper i and lower
>L was especially bad.)
>
>> Also at some point this thread started to get a whiff of Esperanto
>> accusative N to it. Probably at the start, since Klingon is a done
>> deal, like Esperanto.
>
>I'm not sure what you mean here, but I admit that I'm a pedant when
>it comes to English.
>
>--Ph. D.
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