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Re: PA dialect (was: Re: i'm reforming one of my conlangs)

From:Scotto Hlad <scott.hlad@...>
Date:Thursday, December 11, 2008, 13:14
Here's another one.... what's the derivation of "red up" meaning to tidy?
Mum always said that we had to "red up" our bedrooms.

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Subject: Re: PA dialect (was: Re: i'm reforming one of my conlangs)


On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 20:12, Donald Boozer <donaldboozer@...> wrote:
> It appears that rivvel or rivel is related to PA German riwwel meaning "to
rub, grate, or crumble" Ah - that might be standard German "rubbeln", then (which is what you do when you scratch open a scratch-and-sniff thing or one of those things where you have to scratch away a covering to see your PIN or your lucky number underneath; or the thing your hand does when you're giving someone a noogie; perhaps an iterative(?) form of "reiben" = "to rub or grate"?).
> (which is what the noodles look like...crumbled dough).
And that might be what south Germans call "Spätzle"? (Well, all Germans call it that, but the dish itself is associated with southern Germany, and the name comes from there, as witness the -le diminutive ending which is not used in northern Germany.)
> See http://books.google.com/books?id=i33BWgxbvXgC&pg=PA598&dq=riwwel
Ah - after looking at that, it derives it from PA Ger "reiwe", which looks like a dialect form of "reiben" to me. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>