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Re: A question of semantics

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Friday, August 8, 2003, 20:24
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Nick Maclaren <nmm1@C...> wrote:

> 2) The concept of "with probability one", as in statistics. I > have had to try to get this across to people with science degrees > and little knowledge of mathematical probability and have had major > difficulty. They often just CAN'T break out of the mindset of > discrete mathematics.
I don't quite see the problem with "probability one". It's just a way of saying "with 100% certainty", a concept that should be understandable even outside of mathematics. On the other hand, many people have trouble with applying or manipulating non-trivial probabilites, e.g. "if one test has a probability of 25% for outcome A, then the probability to get an outcome A in four tests is 100%". ;-)
> 3) Wavefunction collapse in quantum mechanics, in such a way > as to make the two-slit experiment a natural consequence. Einstein > had trouble with this one :-)
Ouch! That one takes years by default. =P I think it would help the learning curve if teachers were clearer about the fact that an observation will not only yield an eigen- value of the observable's operator, but actually snap the wave function into the corresponding eigenstate. Then the two-slit experiment becomes clearer. (Of course, the notion that |a+b|^2 is not the same as |a|^2 + |b|^2 for complex numbers needs to be understood first!)
> The fact > that mathematics uses the same words shouldn't confuse us into > thinking that they have the same semantics.
It still does, often enough. =P -- Christian Thalmann

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