Re: USAGE: Voiced/voiceless stops in English, was: Re: Pronouncing Tokana...

At 10:32 am -0500 1/2/00, John Cowan wrote:
>Vasiliy Chernov wrote:
>
>> E. g., what happens in examples like:
>>
>> a tall man
>> at all
>> a dawn
>> had altered
>>
>> - in American English?
>
>"A tall man" is pronounced with aspirated t, [@ thOl m&n].
Yep - basically the same this side of the pond [@t_hO:lm&n]
 The others
[...]


>Most dialects of British English, including RP, don't have this flap.
Some in north west England have [r\] (alveolar approximant) for medial /t/
and would, presumably, pronounce 'at all' as [@r\O:l]

Among generations younger than me, medial & final /t/ is commonly
pronounced [?] in many parts of Britain, so we have [@?O:l]

Others have [@tO:l] with out aspiration, or [@t?O:l].  And, I suspect there
are other variations, but 'a tall...' is IME generally distinct from 'at
all'.

>Note that voicing differences are lost: both /t/ and /d/ are flapped.
Not here - 'a dawn' is [@'do:n]; in the south east, 'adorn' is pronounced
the same way   :)

Ray.


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