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Re: USAGE: Voiced/voiceless stops in English, was: Re: Pronouncing Tokana...

From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Saturday, February 5, 2000, 11:47
At 20:15 +0000 4.2.2000, And Rosta wrote:
> >First, it occurs only 'foot internally' -- that is, where the preceding >syllable is stronger than the following, e.g. "get off/away/out" /ger .../ >"shut up" /SUrUp/. I can't think of examples of it happening word-medially. >Possibly I have mischaracterized the constraint, and it is more like t > r >following a lax vowel, but [@r\O:l] sounds totally out to me. I suspect, >furthermore, that t > r is lexically conditioned, i.e. its applicability is >contingent on the lexical identity of the word containing the /t/.
Some kinds of Swedish have a rule whereby d > r when words from a certain set of pronouns/adverbs/determiners (historically equivalent to the engl words with initial /D/!) are cliticized. Personally I detest this usage, but hey, that's just because my idiolect lacks that rule! :-) /BP B.Philip Jonsson <mailto: bpj@...> <mailto: melroch@...> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ Anant' avanaute quettalmar! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ___ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ I neer Pityancalimeo\ \_____/ /ar/ /_atar Mercasso naan ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)