Re: Types of possession

John Quijada wrote:
> I guess I'm too late to add to the fray, but for what it's worth, Ithkuil
> distinguishes all of the following "possessives":
>
(snip much of interesting and exhaustive list)

> the man's happiness = he feels happy [affective experience]
What about "quality/description"-- the man's height, the man's weight, the
man's age?? I see these as intrinsic, but since they are "temporary" in a
broad sense, not inalienable. Anyhow, these are the among the few
constructions in Kash that use the N+poss N with a [+hum]noun:--
vital/ni kaçut
tall-his man(nom.) = the man's height

The genitive case is simply not used in such cases--
*amital kaçuti (NOML-tall man-gen)

This is the usual way of indicating "possession" by inanimates--
aceç/ni laca [legs-its table(nom)] the table's legs
lus/ni etengi [end-its book] the end of the book
mevi/ni endak the price of the meat
(The genitive case is possible but disfavored when there is a clear
part/whole relation, as in a table's legs-- aceç lacayi is OK but rather
formal.

> the man's rescue = he is the one rescued [target of others' purpose]
Ah, the objective genitive. Not possible in Kash, would require paraphrase.

> the man's rescue = he's the one performing the rescue [act one performs]
Subjective genitive-- is possible, again the +ni construction:
sisa/ni kaçut (liri XXX)
love/his man (w.r.t. XXX) = the man's love (of XXX)

and the rather colloquial transformation of Subj - Vb to Vb+poss--
kaçut yakota...
man 3s/say 'the man says...' -->

kotani kaçut
what the man says is..., or in narrative simply, 'he says...'

All your other cases, AFAICT, would use the genitive in the case of a human.