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Spanish /rr/ (was Re: IPA / SAMPA question)

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Sunday, January 19, 2003, 17:06
Carlos Thompson wrote:

>There is, of course, some dialectal variation, i.e. mountain dialects in
Ecuador and Southern Colombia (Peru?), pronounce /rr/ as [Z] or [z`]. Interesting!! And anywhere else, do you know?? Any idea how it originated?? That pronunciation also occurs in some provincial areas of Argentina; e.g. in Tucumán I was told I could change money at [la'kasa 'ZeZes] and was completely flummoxed until the lady pointed down the street to a sign, REYES. At cabarets etc. in Buenos Aires, comedians made fun of it. Arg. linguist-friends claimed it's not the same as the [Z] = |y, ll|, but has still some kind of rhotic quality (maybe more retroflexed)-- they cited Czech r-hacek as comparable. Anyhow, I couldn't produce the sound to their satisfaction.